How a heat safely rocks sweat lodge sauna with propane?


Since I was a child I have participated in sweat lodge/kiva ceremonies but I recently ran into some problems when I tried to build one on a friend’s property. My friend was unconcerned but the neighbours flipped out at the first sign of smoke. Traditionally a fire is built to heat the rocks. Hot rocks are then carried into the lodge where water+herbs is poured over them to create steam inside the lodge. Even tho’ the location is as safe as possible (near a cave & waterfall a few feet from a stream) the neighbours don’t understand so I must find an alternative means of heating. I could place a double burner (propane) on cinderblocks to heat the rocks but I am concerned about the amount of time and gas it would take to do this with a normal regulator valve.

It seems to me I should be able to heat rocks within 20 minutes if I used a large propane tank and could somehow safely remove the valve.

Any suggestions?
Thank you all for your excellent responses. I’ll try to address them as I can.
Mr. TwoCrows: Thanks. “Settling” holds different meaning for me.
First, while I honor and respect your tradition, I should say I am not a “twinkie” looking for claims to blood or religion. My blood is my own as is my belief and my intention. I have no interest in “pet-agree” ;-) either. I am equally proud of my ‘Indian’ and Scandinavian heritage which both “sweat”. FYI…’Kiva’ ‘sauna’ and ‘sweatlodge’ were intended as search tags.
Yes. I asked permission at the site & had it from the landowner. Neighbors in the mountains have their own reasons (IYKWIM) for not wanting the fire department called in by another neighbor concerned about smoke. This is not my issue, alone.
I realize I have not had a ‘proper’ fire ceremony. Considering my mixed heritage and lack of resources out in CA, would you recommend anything better?
As mentioned, I’ve participated in many sweats (Chickamauga, Tewa, Ohlone and Karuk). I wish this to be a more regular part of my life & no, steam won’t do :)
PhillipJ:
Thanks for the good advice. :) I should mention I am a former student of geology. I do have some experience with rocks but also with those used in both sweats and saunas. (rocks with water in them can explode) It is just that traditionally, I have not built one alone (apart from the hole-in-the-ground type) and we have always had a full day ceremony with fire.

I understand both the spiritual and health benefits to having a sweat but I cannot always travel to locations where they are regularly held.

I only did this once and I had a fire for about 4 hours. Many neighbours walk through paths in the forest although the property actually belongs to a friend of mine who owns 3 ridges up t It was the concern of just one who seemed more concerned about disturbance by fire officials than by anything but obviously the people living nearby in the mountains are concerned about their homes and potential wildfires. Hadn’t thought of inviting, as this was personal but perhap
InJoy :) Thanks. Nice name, too.

I know, I was wondering about that but just not sure how to get around this. I’d definitely prefer a fire but I don’t want problems either.

Propane seemed the best option. Guess I need to think some more.




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March 25, 2010 at 2:22 am

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March 25, 2010

By dragonxracer

All you need is to get an open-burning natural gas used to camp and put it on the ground and put 2 blocks on both sides and give the grill grate over the rocks and you on this warm up to set the id burner in MED or low at first if ya do to be high, cracking the rocks by the heat or you could justbuy a camping stove door that checks for this and only put into that with this how can clse the cap and can heat faster and you wouldnt use both gas

Cruise yard sales for a used barBQ or hibachi, and be sure to use a type of rock can explode if they get too zesti.Ti with your neighbors, anyway? You for excessive smoke are you limited by the decree of city or neighborhood association rules and is there a risk of forest fire emergency in force? do this on private land that does not belong to you? Did neglect to invite their neighbors to the sweat lodge with you? I wonder if they are busy bodies, and any from their businesses.

Sounds like a nice site! There may be a fireplace near? Wood can be burned to it, and then hot coals (which produce little or non-smoking) could be transferred to a fire pit to heat it rocks in.Gia any reason the thought of using a fuel such as propane, which includes refining oil for heating holders of ancient knowledge of the Earth appears skopimoopos propane is highly flammable, remove valve for a large propane tank and tries to turn safely gas probably is more dangerous than it deserves.

Did you get permission to build this Kiva; and were did you get your fire? If you do this at a young age should be aware of kanones.Tha say that this is THE (lookin up) way to stop doing something wrong .

There are no easy solutions if you want to settle for artificial heat, just go to a gym has a steam room.

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